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We don't often hear the other side of the coin, here is one person's take on it. Joshua's dad decided to become a woman and his story, in retrospect, of how he felt about it. A very interesting piece.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/08/when-my...

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Transition is so rare that I except that my immediate family could never see beyond how it affected them to how not transitioning would have affected me. Friends in contrast seemed to accept that my transition was for the best. It made me appreciate human limitations and that only when we have no initial expectations of a person can we hope to see them for who they are. The son in this case seems to have done much better than most family members could be expected to

Rhona McCloud

My own son

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seemed to be doing reasonably well, I know he had some issues, then his wife came along played with his head, blamed all their problems on my transition and he killed himself. I'm glossing over details here but that was the outcome. Ironically, in the usual case it would be me who died - can't get anything right!

Angharad

So Very Sorry

I'm very sorry that your son decided to take his own life.

I've often contemplated taking my own life. From my personal experience the bulk of my time has been spent on the "How" rather than the "Why." As you know, I'm a rather prolific writer, albeit feeble compared to you. Yet, when it came time to put to paper the "Why?" of it all I became stymied. My reasons quickly dissolved as unfounded or embarrassingly minor. I don't know what your son felt, however, suicide is such a irrational act that trying to place "blame" often says much more about the accuser than it does about the departed.

I have a heart condition and take quite a number of drugs on a daily basis. As you know, those drugs almost all carry a warning about depression and suicidal thoughts. I'm quite sure that my suicidal thoughts are largely chemically induced.

As a medical person I'm sure you also know that your son may have had a severe chemical imbalance that caused his depression and ultimate death. It may well be that the "Why" for him had little to do with reality.

My daughter-in-law can also be a handful. She's a highly-driven person who stomps through live with little regard for those who might be underfoot. I few years ago Erin taught me about the "It's not about you" rule. I've applied it to my daughter-in-law's rants and life has become immeasurably better. Sure, what she says is sometimes awful . . . but when I consider why she's saying it and don't get all uptight about her lack of a filter, it's easier to digest.

People say hurtful things. People, like you and me, are ready at all times to express our opinions . . . and some of those opinions might be hurtful, even though the last thing we're trying to do is harm anyone. I believe the world would be a much less tolerable place without opinionated people. That's why people love polls so much.

Two of the reasons I walk on little cat's feet around my daughter-in-law are my grandchildren. If you have similar circumstances you know you need to do the necessary to maintain a relationship with them, if at all possible.

You're a very important person to this site. We all are in envy of your work ethic. People love what you create.

It is impossible to believe your son didn't see in you what we have.

Angela Rasch (Jill M I)

My son,s response to this story

Sean McBride this is a very different experience to mine, or at least it seems. While you have changed, you are also very much the same amazing person you always were.

Nothing is permanent, the life you were part of
giving me taught me this, and just because the father you once were is not exactly the person you are now, does not mean that father is gone, merely that he exists in a time that has passed.

You did a tremendous job as a father, without you I would not be the person I am, and now you do a tremendous job of being Joanie, and I wouldn't have it, or you any other way.

I have often wondered if I would feel differently had your transition come while I was in high school and had to endure the things kids might have said, but what ifs aren't worth much energy.

I love you!
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I think my kids took my transition much different.

Everyone was over 21 when I came out, and I was a single parent. I scared the bejesus out if my son, he saw how very close I came to not being there. Of course, he is one of the 3 reasons I didn't (I have 3 kids I adopted after my brother killed himself), 2 of them immediately accepted me, the 3rd is finally coming around (she is a fundi). I will have to show him the article and get his input, but to a large extent I think I am still a parental unit. I am always telling him his Mom doesn't live here (he still lives with me). I don't think he quite believes me.

What to say ...

I say I "knew" when I was 4; Knew I was female. What if it was true that the male role models were so bad, that I never wanted to be like them? What if mothers, sisters,and females were much more preferable? Could that have meant that if good males had been in my life, I'd have wanted to be one? The brother that just died was a murderer and a rapist. Why would I want to be like him? My other brothers were distant, unaffectionate, and mean, often making fun of me. In turn I was mean to my own brother, five years younger. How can I look back and possibly regret the past enough? My step father, who could perhaps have molded me, was incredibly abusive and molesting.

As an adult, I was never masculine enough and was often told so and pointedly. People being ignorant often thought I was gay, something unpardonable for a man with a wife, three children and a dog. Working in a place with 1000 employees in a 7 acre manufacturing plant, I'd hear comments that I was gay, so I'd go to the phone, call the wife, and at noon, she would show up with the children, leave the dog home, and and set two giant Pizzas on the table along with some pop and we'd eat lunch. No one would say I was gay for a while.

Then came the day that a counsellor said that I had GID. Just what the hell does a family man, married for 21 years, with three children a hot wife and a dog, a church, and good friends, and a great job do with that? Why I fought it off, it could not be right. I had never been attracted to a male. Looking back, perhaps my own hatred of males and being abused simply overshadowed the fact that I was gay ???

I was in denial so deep that I did not actually know the truth. I planned to kill myself when the youngest got married.

Somehow that didn't happen. Instead I became a woman, and to get revenge on the church that hurt me, I became Muslim. Yes, none of you who know how little sense that made need to say anything.

My son, who is now 49, has never accepted it, even after 12 years. He used to call me up every few months and passive aggressively vent his anger. The psychological community used to tell me that he and the girls would eventually adjust, and if they didn't, the psych folk could label it an adjustment disorder. Finally after his being particularly nasty, I told him that I never wanted to hear from him again. It's been more than 6 months and he hurts me less, but I do not know that he hurts any less. I haven't heard from the girls, 47 and 31, but once in that time.

I'm caught in a dilemma now. I would kill myself to end it all, but I have friends now and not a few. How can one end one's own suffering if it causes others to suffer? So here we are, living the best lives we can, being as kind to others as we know how, and telling ourselves that our own desire to make it hurt less should be supplanted by the need to help others suffer less.

You thought I would have an answer didn't you? I'm sorry.

My son is 35 -

he is an alcoholic but I saw that coming when he was only 18 . He used alcohol to obliterate his problems from the age of eighteen and despite every effort by both my wife and I there seemed to be no way of stopping it. It caused us both much despair. He is a brilliant guitarist and we hoped that his gift might lift him out of the trough he has ended up in but it was not to be. He can still play and often joins in with local groups at 'jamming' sessions and they often ask him to join them. He might go along with them for a while but his drunkenness soon causes rifts and he invariably separates again.
He found out about my transgenderism when he was twenty one and he tells me it had nothing to do with causing his problems - he had them long before I came out. He tells me that when he learned about Beverly it actually brought him closer to me because he -at long last- realised that I had flaws and the armour I projected (courtesy of my own child abuse,) had at long last shown a chink of light that gave him cause for relief and approachment to me.

He now accepts Beverly whole-heartedly because she is a more compassionate and considerate person than his dad ever was and all importantly, less demanding. I see him about four or five times a year but it is always me that has to make the arrangements because his depression destroys all his motivation. He says I have become more like his sadly departed mum (Helen) insofar as I have now adopted one of the typically female rolls in the family by maintaining the familial links in addition to exploring and enjoying my new horizons.

We always see each other around Christmas time but not on Christmas day, his memories of the happy Christmases we had as a family are too painful to recall in the light of his losing his mum, my wife of 45 years. Usually we see each other on my wedding anniversary (Dec 20th) and early in the new year plus a few other times through the year. This new situation for him is a graphic reflection of Polonious's advice to Laertes - To thine own self be true and ..............

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