Question re. the COGIATI test.

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Hello!

Tried to find this question in the forums but failed. I am thinking of making use of the COGIATI test in my newest story, which takes place in the 1980s. The character begins to question himself at the home of a friend whose father is a therapist. As an easy first step, the father digs a copy of the test out of his... desk or book from his shelves or whatever. But I would like to know if the COGIATI test existed that early. I don't mind "bending the rules" to make a story work, but this would be a bit of a strain on credibility. Thank you!

Monalisa

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Fantasy Test

That test has been around a long time and is senseless. Meyers Briggs would be good but it does not do gender.

1998

COGIATI

Created by Jennifer Diane Reitz, 1998
COGIATI contents copyright C 1998 Jennifer Diane Reitz, All Rights Reserved

Thank you!

Scratch the COGIATI. We'll go with an interview.

Thanks again,
Monalisa

Jennifer Diane Reitz, Author, Web Programmer

Jennifer Diane Reitz apparently wrote the test and is not a psychologist. If you wish to be Transgender then do it. Hopefully if you are not actually transgender, you will figure that out before you seriously hurt yourself. Some people try to rationalize that they are TG because of their masturbation, or because of the near hysterical, un male feelings they have as a result of a high stress job, PTSD, or because of childhood trauma. Do not allow your misplaced guilt to push you into some way to justify those feelings.

It is my opinion that most transgender folk write stories about being feminine, and perhaps dress up once in awhile, having enough sense to know that transitioning and living as a woman in public can destroy their credibility in a still very homophobic society.

Just trying to spare you some pain, and wishing I had followed my own advice.

Gwen

Good Points, Gwen

littlerocksilver's picture

I can relate very well to what you say in your second paragraph.

Portia

To me, part of the prblem with it is:

Hypatia Littlewings's picture

It seems geared toward a specific answer. Not that it guarantees that particular answer, but it is kind of set up to expect that answer. The feel I get from it is, that it is not really an objective test of how male or female someone is, but how much of a Girly M2F they are. The test is expecting M2F test takers and that is what it is designed find. It is almost begging for that answer.

>i<

Better to use

Patricia Marie Allen's picture

For that time frame it would be better to use The Bem Sex Role Inventory. It has it's roots in the 1970s. The dad could be a contemporary or actually have known Sandra Lipsitz Bem.

Hugs
Patricia

Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt

The Cogiati is a farce. It

The Cogiati is a farce. It plays to sex-role stereotypes, and it even includes an ambiguously-worded spatial rotation question. And, as noted in another answer, an anachronism.

The Bem Sex-Role Inventory isn't great either.

It is possible to be the butchest girl or femest guy on earth, and still all girl or all guy or all enby. It can be a bit harder to figure things out that way.

Missing the point

It doesn't matter whether the test is absolutely correct or male bovine droppings, that wasn't what the original poster asked.

What was wanted was to know if that test existed at the time of the story and if so, would it have been used.

It is easy enough to say with 20/20 hindsight that something is a piece of crap but we didn't have that back in the day.

What was asked was, would some test like that have been used at that time? With what we knew then, probably yes, but the COGIATI test didn't exist in that time frame. Other tests, equally meaningful, probably did. Remember, there was no internet then.

Penny

Silly tests

As silly as the tests are, and personality tests in general (IMO), a lot of people buy into those things. I think it could be an interesting starting point for a story.

I Took The Test, Answered It Honestly

And discovered that I'm either male or female, or both, and possibly neither.
So that's all cleared up then.

Ban nothing. Question everything.

I Am Not a Robot

Having often asked myself if I'm human I'm happy to have the frequent online assurances -- when I check the "I am not a robot" box to submit forms.

Angela Rasch (Jill M I)

Sounds kind of like my results.

Hypatia Littlewings's picture

I seem to remember(this was a while back) some test that gave separate maleness and femaleness, besides an over all diagnosis. Is this a variation on the COGIATI test, or some other one.

My results were, approximately, yet consistently around, 70% male & 70% female.

~Hypatia >i< ..:::

After reading here about that test I looked it up and took it...

First thing I found disturbing was how it was designed to force you into choosing only a specific set of answers. Like asking a person that says their favorite color is green, 'What is your favorite color' and the only options are Yellow Red Blue and Orange. None of the supplied answers are correct and you MUST choose one even though all are incorrect.

I found close to half the questions did not have suitable answers to allow me to answer them honestly.

I felt that two more options should have been added to the quesitons. D. Other and E. Who gives a rat's A$$?

We the willing, led by the unsure. Have been doing so much with so little for so long,
We are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

The other problem is the

The other problem is the questions that have more than one appropriate answer. There is one about playing, I found every answer to be appropriate, my friends and I would do which ever struck us that day.

And exactly what does musical ability/knowledge have to do with gender?

It's Odd, Really...

...but if the test had been invented in the 1970s, I would understand why it was done the way it was, but in 1998? Gender stereotypes were already starting to change somewhat by then. We had already had Women's Lib in the 1980s.

Oh well!

Thanks so much for your answers, everyone!
Monalisa