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What time of day does the "daily hits" counter reset to zero?

Midnight, Pacific

erin's picture

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

re: Counter reset

Hi

Strange. My stories always seem to reset about 4pm-5pm UK time, which is about 8am-9am pacific

Karen

Especially overseas...

Puddintane's picture

...but elsewhere too, you may be accessing a cached version of the site, unless you force a reload. To save bandwidth, many carriers cache traffic using complex algorithms to ensure that one doesn't transmit entire files every time a page is visited or reloaded, just as many takeaway restaurants keep pre-made items waiting under heatlamps to speed customer service if it's something they know will likely be ordered very soon.

It's a tradeoff in both cases. The food (and the data) may be a little less than fresh, but it's available now as opposed to later,

Cheers,

Puddin'

A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style

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Cheers,

Puddin'

A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style

Cache

hi

Page refreshed and I know it is getting from the server as I went into a story that hadn't had a count and it went up. Time is now 10:07am UK time, which is 2:07am Pacific time.

Update: I refreshed at 16:05 BST and it had the days figures. I refreshed at 16:30 and they had been reset to 0.

Regards

Karen

Who ya' gonna believe?

Puddintane's picture

Erin, who owns and controls the server, or the situation at the end of a long game of virtual "Telephone*" or "Chinese Whispers?"

Proxy caching is not controlled by users, but by the sequence of interactions between the user and the ultimate server. The most reliable way to get through to the real server is to log out and then log back in since it forces an actual interaction and generates a unique page that won't be cached. But that doesn't mean that other pages won't be cached. It's all the luck of the draw. Even if the "count" goes up, it doesn't mean that you've reached the actual server, but only that the page you reached was cached more recently. Proxy servers are clever enough to disregard hit counters entirely, since it's obvious that every page with a "hit counter" would otherwise never be cached and the Internet would drown in excess traffic.

Proxy caching also affects the page counts that people make so much of. If your request for a particular page can be fulfilled by a proxy server anywhere along the chain, it will be, and the "hit count" won't be affected. This is tough on the authors, but good for Erin, since Internet service is sold by bandwidth, and bigger glops of bandwidth cost more money. From the standpoint of economy, the more pages that can be fulfilled by proxy servers the better.

The takeaway from this fact is that "hits" are essentially meaningless except as a very rough measure. Whatever the "hit counter" reveals, you can rest assured that the real figure is greater. How much greater depends entirely on the browsing patterns of the audience for any particular story. If intentional hits are generated slowly, or are widely spaced, the counter is more likely to be closer to accuracy. If they're generated in close proximity to other such requests, the less accurate they're likely to be, since cache data has "time to live" values set by the proxy hosts based on their own bandwidth and service requirements. If proxy servers are being inundated with requests by other users accessing other pages, the time to live values are adjusted upwards, so browsing at busy times of day is more likely to be served by proxy servers.

If everyone in the world read any particular story more-or-less simultaneously, the hit counter for that story would not bump up to six billion, although the Internet might crash. (Kids, don't try this experiment at home!) Almost all those requests would be served by proxy servers, and Erin (thank heavens!) would neither see nor have to pay for them. On the other hand, these requests would neither generate any advertising payment, but advertisers discount hits appropriately, so payment rates are based on the average number of actual hits, which can be calculated statistically.

Cheers,

Puddin'

* The children's party game in which the fun is had by hearing how much a short message changes after being whispered around a circle of party-guests. The game is highly subject to manipulation by the participants, since every new whisper is an opportunity to secretly affect the outcome.

A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style

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Cheers,

Puddin'

A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style

Reset

littlerocksilver's picture

My counter resets early morning 8-9:00 AM.

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