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Interesting...
If only something would be done about trans-phobia. An interesting song, I suppose, but the T seems to have been missed entirely except for a rather ignorant reference about "men in skirts," if this is entirely about 'homophobia' then perhaps they should have left gender identity out all together. As it stands, it's reinforcing a rather negative stereotype.
apparently...
That line was more about transvestites, than about t-girls... so there's really no reference to transgender AT ALL.
I guess "girls who eat dirt" is about tomboys? It's certainly not about transmen. Unless the accompanying lyric about "men in their skirts" was actually intended to be directed towards transgender as well, and it's an ignorant massing together of transgender and transvestite, making the "girls who eat dirt" far more ignorant and disgusting towards the transmen than the "men in their skirts" are towards us girls.
*sigh...* you're probably right... we are still being shunted by the LGB's.
Abigail Drew.
Wishful Thinking
Surely you do not expect the GLB activist to go out of their way to address the concerns and issues of the TG community in the same way they insist everyone deal with them? The only reason there is a little 't' tacked onto GLBt is because organizations such as HRC have been shamed into doing so. Even so, we're still relegated to the back of the bus.
As to making fun of TGs, why is that such a surprise? I mean, when you have Logo, the GLB network featuring a show like 'RuPaul's Drag Race,' what do you expect? As far as I am concerned, promoting and supporting that show is as offensive to me as would a series about a contest to see what caucasians could do the best black-faced routine would be to an African American.
The alliance of TGs with the the GLB community is one of convenience. For their part, GLB leader do not wish to be painted as hypocrites and we have no where else to go. Our issues are, for the most part not the same ones the GLB community is focused on.
Will things change? Don't hold your breath while you're sitting there in the back of the GLB (little) 't' bus.
Nancy Cole
"You may be what you resolve to be."
T.J. Jackson
Hmm...
We're on a different bus because we have a different journey, but the public perception is that we're all one thing.
Yet in truth we are all starting from the same point, and at least one of the charities the song is supporting aims to address that. We all start from the point of being different, and by addressing the differences at school age through positive role models. Once we leave the school sure we're on different buses, how could we not be? But crucially when the support is most needed IMO we're all in the same boat.
As an adult little of this is important to me, I'm already past the point where the direct support from this single could help me, but I have a nephew with another nephew or niece on the way (as yet gender unspecified), several young 2nd cousins who I care dearly for. I'd like to know that they might have a chance that I did not, and that whether or not they're straight, bent or entirely twisted (Heterosexual, Homosexual or Transsexual) they get all the help they can to be the best people they can.
LN
The Legendary Lost Ninja
you owe me a box of tissues.
I cried throughout the entire song. I'm still crying. Dangit.
Abigail Drew.
It seems to be produced ONLY by G girls
Hi Cliff,
Thank you for sharing that with us. The focus seems to be on lesbians and gays, well, if Transgendered people want their voice heard, we might have to produce our own video. (AND make it of at LEAST the same quality) I can't blame those girls for focussing on their issues more than other people's. To quote some clichés; Toot your own horn, the squeaky wheel gets the oil, the runt of the litter gets shafted. OK, so that last one I sort-of made up myself. The point is that the best advertising is always produced by people with a PERSONAL stake in the product and lesbians and gays normally have no personal stake in the plight of Transfolk.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
with love,
Hope
with love,
Hope
Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.
Transman
I spotted one person who might be a transman in the production.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
The Alliance...
...sounds like something out of Star Wars? The thing about LGBT is that it blurs the distinction between gender identity and sexual orientation. We may have a common cause when it comes to being ostracized or judged, but the commonality ends there, unless we include the broader mutuality of being human. I've seen more sympathetic stories and movies and shows on broadcast TV and shhh...don't tell anyone I told you...even Fox. The shows on Logo with RuPaul's brand perpetuate the stereotype that all folks in the transgender spectrum (yes, I know we don't all agree on that either) are gay. But as Jerry Seinfeld is wont to say, "Not that there's anything wrong with that."
Meanwhile, news reports like the following go virtually ignored: http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/MindMoodNews/story?id=799452...
Not to take anything away from the song; everyone needs to be safe and accepted and understood. But like Georgette Orwell said, "All LGBT's are equal, but some LBGT's are more equal than others."
Love, Andrea Lena
Wipeout homophobia song.
This song is not about homophobia, to the contrary. The song is by The L Project, a lesbian group and the song is about stopping LGBT bullying that is so prevalent in our society. I think, personally, the song speaks to LGBT people, and maybe you didn't hear all the lyrics. But the song is defintely not homophobic. Why would it be? It was made by The L Project which is a lesbian group.
Hugs,
Barbara
"With confidence and forbearance, we will have the strength to move forward."
Love & hugs,
Barbara
"If I have to be this girl in me, Then I have the right to be."
Perhaps a little insensitive.
I'm not really sure what my feelings are about this song. It was sung by an all lesbian group of activists in support of the 'L project' and it addresses the bullying that LGB't' community endures. Whilst I heartily applaud moves to draw attention to, and even address the bullying we face, I can understand why the 'Tee' community might be offended by the repeated choruses referring to 'Men in Skirts' For once again it implies 'farce' and 'comedy' surrounding transvestism in particular but also transgenderism as a whole.
Being Transvestic myself I'm almost innured to the uncalled for ridicule that goes with our territory and sometimes I wonder if my 'In your face' behaviour is a reflection of my extrovert, extravagent reactions to years of stealth and closet mongering. These days I think I secretly enjoy shocking people and some of my friends say that my effervescence might be counter-productive. On the other side though, I'm also intergendered and there is quite definitely a woman inside me who needs to express herself often. (That's why she takes hormones and has grown breasts.) This woman feels hurt by the seemingly comic reference to 'men in skirts' and I tend therefore to go with Nan's view.
These two seemingly conflicting natures in my personality make for a lot of confusion that's why I've got mixed feelings about the song.
There is no doubt though, Nan is right. We are still a small 't' in the LGB't' community and we have a long way to go to make the LGB community more aware and (or so it seems from that line in the chorus,) more sensitive and considerate of our particular issues.
I must confess, even though I am 'In you face!' when I'm out trannying, it still irks me that every generation has to be educated and taught about transgenderism and that is entirely because of the continued prejudice by the heterosexist majority.
I wonder if it will ever end (Well for certain not in my lifetime anyway.)
Beverly.
And yet...
I consider myself to be a trapped woman (girl), and yet Men in Skirts clearly identified me...
After all if god was real and prayer worked or a certain gentleman in a green dressing gown had a shop in my local town... I would be a woman and not need the 't' community... Being LGB is an ongoing thing, it doesn't stop after an operation... though I bet some would prefer that... Ultimately the 't' community is transient because those who are successful don't need it and perhaps would as soon forget that they are 't' and not real.
LN
The Legendary Lost Ninja
I've bought it....
And I'd encourage others to do so...
So it doesn't mention T-girls? So what? It's a good cause that will certainly bring needed attention to our world because we're pretty much always linked to the LGB world even if the links are neither accurate or needed -- mostly.
Besides it's a nice song.
LN
The Legendary Lost Ninja
Well, I am so happy for Lesbians and Gays. :)
You bet that T folk have a different experience. I mostly do not even come close to connecting with Lesbians and very few Gays. Now that I am having a faith experience with the "enemy", some of my gay friends seem to be trying to herd me back into the fold, and it makes me feel hostile toward them. I mean like if boys want to do each other and girls, girls, they are free to do so, but my friend seems to want me to tell him it is OK, even desirable. He fails to tumble to the idea that what I think is not a part of the equation. I still have not forgotten that the G's and L's threw us under the bus.
As for me, I am doing my best to live what some see as a fantasy, and I plan to do it. full stop. In the last 11 months, the idea that I am anything but a woman has not come up a single time in this group.
So, I think it would just be better if folks would just live their lives and let the plonkers be who ever they are. When the 'phobes get abusive, we have every right to defend ourselves.
G