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Philip Porter, Former Transgender Woman: 'I Was An NFL Cheerleader

Texas native Philip Porter spoke to HuffPost Live about his apparent decision to transition back to his birth sex (male) after living for 32 years as a transgender woman.

This was on HuffPost. Your thoughts if any.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/09/transgender-nfl-che...

Rami

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erin's picture

Nothing says gender is completely immutable but it really does sound like mid-life crisis time. :)

If it was cheap, easy and socially acceptable, I think more people might try such things.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Reverting

That's actually the term that Muslims use for non-Muslims becoming Muslims ... long story. :)

I want a world were each person does what they want to do as often as they wish. I think there would be a lot of traffic both ways and do not think that as a T woman that says a lot about one's sexual preference. I've tried reverting twice, and both times, it just has not worked out; nearly causing my suicide once. It is just too damn bad that it is not easier to do, because if I dressed as a man when I went camping, it would be a lot easier, of course I'd still have to squat. :(

He did hit the nail on the head, a T living as a woman is a lot of work, and socially difficult too. I do not believe I am gay, yet a lot of people think we are, yet my church thinks I am a woman full stop. The reason so many T folk are mentally ill has noting to do with our clothing choices but the abominable way that family and certain members of our culture treat us.

In my case, my sole difficulty has been my family. Whether I actually pass all the time or not, I do not know, but I have been treated badly twice in 10 years.

Gwendolyn

I apologize for the length, but bear with me...

Ragtime Rachel's picture

...as anyone knows who's read my blogs, this has been an ongoing struggle with me. It's why I have difficulty sleeping, because in the past I'd dream about detransitioning, and actually find I like the idea. Until I woke up, that is, but the fact I had those feelings even for a moment makes me panic. So, no sleep.

It's why I've struggled to find something, any kind of proof of cross-gender behavior in my past, that legitimized my transition. When people ask me, "Why did you transition?", I don't really know what to tell them, since my path to living as female was not quite the same as it is for most transpeople--I didn't cross-dress growing up, for instance. So in the past it's made me second-guess myself.

The same arguments play out in my head over and over:

"You're only staying female because you don't want to go through the legal and emotional trouble of switching back!"
"But I don't want the male hormones masculinizing me again: the body hair, the course skin, etc. etc."
"But you were living as male until your thirties, and you did all right."
"The hell I did. I was terrified someone would see something feminine about me, and my constant obsessing about the subject gave me a nervous breakdown."
"You're just making excuses. Truth is, you're not happy with your transition because of the way you look...." and on and on.

Worse, I find that after fifteen years of living full-time female, I still have never quite become accustomed to being called "ma'am" or "miss." Granted, I like when people do that, but it's still jarring. It raises the unpleasant possibility that I might have a male mind after all, and was mistaken about being trans.

I'm seeing a therapist about this now, so these thoughts are not as pervasive as they were. But I always fear they'll return.

What keeps me from actually detransitioning? Maybe the fear of telling all my friends who have only known me as Rachel, and all the legal stuff I'd have to go through, does deter me somewhat. But I refuse to believe that's the only reason. There must be something I truly love about my transition, or I would have gone back long ago.

I can relate to what Phillip said about being curious what it would be like to be male again. After fifteen years, my time living as male is a rapidly fading memory, so I suppose such curiosity is normal.

I do fear that if I got off the female hormones for awhile as he did that I would start to feel more masculine. Then I'd be completely unsure of where I fit.

If nothing else, I think I've made progress in dealing with this struggle. There was a time that I wouldn't have been able to view such a segment as this without feeling panic attacks. I did feel some anxiety viewing it, but I was able to talk myself down.

It does scare me that someone who was HAPPY as a female, as Phillip says he was, would suddenly do this. What does that mean for those like me, who have never been quite satisfied with the way they looked or acted as female?

Livin' A Ragtime Life,
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Rachel

You don't go backwards.

I take vivelle .1 and before it was Estrodial 2 mg. I never took more. I started around 90 or so with the occasional birth control pill, if that did anything. After around 10 years I only really take them to prevent osteoporosis.

So, if you reduce your dosages, if you have had SRS, you have no source of Tesosterone. Mine tested at .05 and a normal male is around 50 or so.

In the UK

Angharad's picture

once you've made the change legally, it becomes difficult to revert, hence they ask you if you're sure you want to change your legal status, though let's face it, if you've had SRS it's going to be difficult anyway. I can only suspect that if you made a mistake having gone all the way, it must feel a bit like being in the wrong body all over again only the other way round.

Angharad

Feel threatened?

Angharad's picture

Not sure I understand the context. There have been one or two high profile cases over here who reverted back, usually to a male role, a couple or more brought down one of the leading psychiatrists dealing with gender problems, but I think generally they were seen as people who made a large personal error.

There is always the risk of the 'weak' individual who gets caught up in the excitement and impetus from others and follows along only to realise too late they made a mistake, and I suspect some of those who regret transitioning are mostly in that group. However, I'm also aware that needs change as we change with age or illness or any other circumstance and that we might change with those needs, that change perhaps reflecting our physical being including gender or sex.

I'm also aware that some people don't understand the meaning of the word, permanent, as it applies to removing bits of body, and that I find worrying.

Angharad

Believe me, I wonder myself if...

Ragtime Rachel's picture

...I'd been one of those weak individuals, and if I would have still transitioned if I'd known how difficult it would be. Though for the most part I'm happy where I am, I still struggle with looking and sounding female, and the stress of that can wear on me. It's hard to look in a mirror without taking inventory of all the things that look ugly or wrong.

At least if I decide to go further (orchiectomy or SRS), I can say that I seriously considered the consequences before doing so.

Livin' A Ragtime Life,
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Rachel

Income

Originally, 10 years ago, my income was based upon my being crazy. If I went back would they say I am no longer crazy?

I'm old enough now that if I lost my income and had to return to work, I would not be able to do the job.

Mid life crisis, I guess...

Ole Ulfson's picture

But probably a bit more. As someone who has doubted myself since I was two, and was critical of myself and constantly questioned myself as to my desires and motives, I think it would be unrealistic to think that self examination would stop with transition. I applaud those who transition and assume that it gives them a peace they never had before. I don't really know as I haven't found my peace yet. But thought patterns (habits) don't change with transition despite the feminized brain.

It would be stranger if no one had second thoughts than that a few do. It's simply human nature to ask "What if?".

Ole

We are each exactly as God made us. God does not make mistakes!

Gender rights are the new civil rights!

I know someone in real life who did this

Hope Eternal Reigns's picture

I will use ' ' around gender specific pronouns because -I- am confused as to which is the correct term to use for this person.

I didn't know this person before the change to female, but met 'her' shortly after. 'She' did not pass well. My first contact was over the phone, when I thought I was talking to a man. 'She' corrected me with quite a huffy tone. All through the time I knew 'her' as a woman there was a sort of conflict, sometimes 'she' would demonstrate a very domineering macho attitude and at other times 'she' would spew forth extreme feminist rhetoric. 'She' was the first person I came out to when I had my life crisis about my sexual identity. We had social interaction for about ten to twelve years, but I felt 'her' domineering attitude becoming more and more abrasive to me so I gradually reduced contact. One day a mutual friend told me that 'he' was going back to being male now. I was STUNNED, here was someone who had gone through the whole sequence I only dreamed about and was throwing it all away. In a way, I felt betrayed, 'she' had used the psychiatric and medical system to get 'her' body into the condition I dreamed of and then thumbed 'his' nose at the system. How would psychiatrist treat transgendered patients now, when a supposed 'success' story blew up in their faces?

I wrote a blog here about the situation a while ago when 'he' came out to me personally. I have not been in contact with 'him' since then, so I do not know the present circumstances. I did hear that 'she' had a LOT of grief from coworkers the whole time 'she' presented as female at 'her' workplace. Maybe that influenced the decision to return to presenting as male? I don't know.

I DO know that I would be very bad at trying to pass as female so I have given up trying. I dress as I feel comfortable in the privacy of my suite, but for the most part do not impose my femininity on the general public. Many of my close friends and family know about me but even there, though there is tolerance, it is often grudging. Most people are alright with my femininity in private BUT they do not want to be seen in public with me in a dress.

Oh well, that is life. Thanks for letting my vent a bit.

with love,

Hope

Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.

I went through a similar experience...

Ragtime Rachel's picture

When I first moved to where I live now, I stayed with a person very similar to your former friend--domineering, abrasive, opinionated, a trans person who still possessed considerable "alpha male" traits. When this person eventually did detransition, it came as no surprise to me. When I met him my first thought had been, "This is the most masculine 'transsexual' I've ever seen." My suspicion is that he was biploar, and transitioned during one of his "high" periods, only to regret it when he came down.

Livin' A Ragtime Life,
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Rachel

I think it's a reminder what a struggle this is

When you struggle with gender identity all of your life, I don't know if there is a magical cure-all.

I read the Don Ennis one the other day, and can't really say I entirely buy that reason of switching back.

I can't help but think of the tragic story of L.A. sports writer Mike Penner who was very open about the journey to become Christine Daniels, who after a few years as Christine, switched back to Mike, and then tragically committed suicide.

There are so many forces we fight, not only how we feel about ourselves, but how we are treated by those around us and society as a whole.

When you've grown up thinking you're one gender, and society tells you you're the other, I don't see the struggle ending when you transition ... and I don't see it ending if you decided to turn back.

But that's just my opinion.

Torey

It's not evil to be confused

Some here, who remember me from those early days for me, back in 2000 what ever, know that I was, then, the consummate whiner, being highly dismayed at the idea that I could somehow be being dragged through a horrifying door way into becoming a woman. It meant the absolute loss of everything that I valued, all of it! According to the VA, I am officially NUTS! It is only because of the fact that I am deemed non-violent that I see the light of day.

Putting in a shameless plug for my stories, they chronicle my journey from the beginning, "MS Frankenstein" being the first. It was the ultimate in Freudian guilt avoidance. I still "stand by" the story because it most accurately portrayed my feelings of the time. Here I was in my 50's, having lived a hyper masculine life, with a wonderful family, great job, and was a pillar in the church and suddenly I dropped a nuclear weapon into my own life? What the hell was with that?

Casting a jaundiced eye into my own life for some brutal self examination, I was a sex addict at puberty. There was no love at any time in my childhood home, and my one armed discovery at age 9 gave me some source of pleasure, because my family sure as hell was not one. I am not the only one to experience a loveless home, just one who is telling the story. I have many silent sisters and brothers out there.

So, skipping all the boring details of my pitiful life, at the time, I felt that becoming a woman was thrust upon me with the same violence as forced feminization. It is a good thing too, because the loss of the oppression of testosterone, and the drugs probably saved my life, to what end, at the time I had no idea.

The issue with my reversion back to Muggle male life is that I have many friends now. I had none before. I am happy now and was not before. I am alive where I would have been dead. So, while I am not opposed to being male again, does it make any sense? I am afraid that changing back would just be further evidence of my own self destructiveness. And I would go back to either being thought of as gay, or a butch dyke.

In my self deluded state, I even approached my church about changing back, thinking that I might still be living in sin, and they most certainly have not been supportive of that little bit of insanity.

Yes, I still have that odd connection between pain and pleasure, but not a single one of you has stepped forward to spank me. :( I don't feel any guilt from it any more because I know from whence it came. Yes, I was a naughty little girl from the beginning. My only issue with that is I do not seem able to connect with anyone for adequate punishment. :(

So, if some of you wish to be male again, I support your efforts, but I lack the courage. :)

Gwendolyn

Be careful

Anaimfinity's picture

We need to be very careful. Before doing radical changes, it is good for one to stay for a while in the twilight and analyze. Depending on how much you changed yourself, it might be very hard to reverse.

May you be happy