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Taxonomy upgrade extras:
The main things are:
1. Always use the same pattern.
2. Use arabic numbers [1...295...???] for the chapter titles in the title field. Never use Roman [I-V-X etc] numerals in the title box for chapter or part numbers. Never use number names [One, Second, Third, etc] in the title box for chapter or part numbers. Use anything you like in the story box.
3. Always use the title for the series, serial or book first, chapter or part number next, followed by chapter or part title last, if desired.
4. Be consistent! See 1 above.
5. Never change your pattern of numbering. See 1 and 4 above.
6. Don't forget rules 1, 4 and 5 above.
7. Putting the chapters or parts in order for series and serialized works is done by alphabetic order. This is easy to do if the above rules are followed, especially rules 1, 4, 5, and 6.
Thanks,
Erin
Comments
Echoes V
I was using roman numerals when I started posting Echoes- do you want me to start using arabic numerals with the next part? It would follow rule 2, but break 1, 4, 5, and 6.
Melanie E.
And 7!
Roman numerals work okay up to VIII but then IX breaks the alphabetization, but then it's okay again up to XIX. If you don't have more parts than 18, it's not that hard to deal with.
Arabic numbers break alphabetization in a very predicatable way at 10, 100, 1000. I can handle that easily by forcing the weight, like I do with Easy...Bike. But Roman numbers break at 9, 19, 29, 39, 49 etc. I run out of exception handlers and have to do extra thinking and extra editing. And sometimes I don't notice that it's wrong for weeks when someone writes to me to tell me so.
Consistency is actually more important than the other rules, though.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Why not include
leading zeros...
01, 02, 03, etc... Or, if you're going to write an epic like Angharad 00001, 00002, ... 12104 ...
Numerology
Dear Erin,
I took a course in University in which one of the units was the history of mathematics. (VERY interesting !!! ) Apparently the Romans didn't use the 'subtractive' method of labeling their numbers. All their numbers were additive, i.e. 4 = IIII and 9 = VIIII. When the 'subtractive' method began wasn't discussed, but I think it was clockmakers that started it, to leave enough room on the face for their names.
with love,
Hope
with love,
Hope
Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.
Not sure
Another reason Echoes is taking so long is I'm kind of flying by the seat of my pants with it- it lasts until AT LEAST Easter in story, but with how the chapters come out that could be Echoes XL or even CXL numeral-wise.
Rules, so many rules
Rules, so many rules, so many to remember, it is burning my brain from the inside out!
Sequential
Since the underlying sorting is alphabetical, that should mean that theoretically someone could label a story with letters, if it has 26 chapters or less.
Then again...
Hey Jenn,
You could have the first chapter be 'Aardvark', the second might be 'Abraham' the third 'Action' etc. The possibilities are litterally infinite. (Within the limits of the author's imagination.)
with love,
Hope
with love,
Hope
Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.
American Numerals?
Hey, why do I have to use Arabic numerals? I'm not an Arab, though I know my fair share of them.
Why can't I use Roman numerals? I married someone who had Italian ancestors and, being from New Jersey, I love Italian food.
Nancy Cole
P.S. Can anyone tell me if there are Irish or Welsh numerals?
"You may be what you resolve to be."
T.J. Jackson
Because ...
... it was the Arabs who were the mathematical genii who finally twigged that doing even easy sums (let alone hard ones) was a lot easier using a decimal system than the ridiculous numerals bequeathed by the Romans. Can you imagine doing simple additions using Roman numerals? I bet almost no-one could do it without mentally substituting Arabic. I just wish they'd decided on base 12 or even base 16 - it would have made life a lot easier but as it is ...
Clever buggers, the Arabs ... then they got religion :)
I don't know what they are but there are some traditional counting rhymes used by shepherds so I guess they were used by the Welsh who are well known for counting sheep. I don't think they were decimal based, either.
Geoff
Actually..
..the Arabs only introduced those numbers in Europe. The numbering system came originally from India. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals
Hugs,
Kimby
Hugs,
Kimby
Roman Numerals Maths
I had a sadistic instructor once that did exactly that, made us take exams on it as well.
Yan Tan Tether
How did you get the sheep into the classroom? :) Did you have to bring your own?
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Tally sticks
Roman numerals began as marks on tally sticks - sheep counting. Make a notch as each sheep walks by, distinguish every fifth mark and tenth mark, then the fifth ten, etc. Then they made marks on a new stick to add several sticks together. So it was really developed for simple addition (in a way), but not so much for any other math operation.
Even though the marks are decimal, the way they treated numbers was more of a base 20. Think of all the languages where the naming system still is; how many shillings in a pound (old money); days of rain of famous floods; how long a nap must be;...
Joy;Jan