Oldest painting of a Transvestite found..

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I found this while browsing the news sites this morning and thought it would be of interest to some readers.

Blossom

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/earliest-painting-o...

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Transvestism MUST be millenia old

Hope Eternal Reigns's picture

If transvestism hadn't been fairly common in Old Testement times there would have been no reason for its ban to be included in Judaic Law.

Hope

with love,

Hope

Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.

AND since it is at LEAST that old...

Hope Eternal Reigns's picture

I would be more than shocked and amazed if there were not MANY more, and older, pictures than this one around.

Hope

with love,

Hope

Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.

Well no and yes

As in no, Judaic law that covers crossdressing in Deuterotomy was due to priests of the people, who very inconveniently was already living in the Jews new 'promised land', practiced Goddess worship.

So it would not be good to allow ones own people to change religion. Also, how better to paint the opposition for being evil. All religious law in Deuterotomy has a political and social control aspect and has little to do with God. Consequently, that is why people in the extreme right love to selectively invoke those very tenants where it suits them though a) It has little to no relevancy to modern culture and b) they conveniently do not mention those parts that contradict their own shortcomings.

And, theoretically, for Christians, Jesus was suppose to have forged a new covenant 'which teaches that the Old Testament Laws have been fulfilled and abrogated or cancelled' ( quoted from wiki. )

And, finally, yes, but we may not even know they were really 'men' in the first place if they were young enough to thoroughly pass, or if they are intersexed or even if they have AIS, which would make them genetically male.

Kim

Earl Clarendon, Edward Hyde Transvestite N.Y. Mayor.

As a student in the N.Y.C. Public Schools, we visited the Museum of the City of New York and the New York Historical Society. Among the paintings was one of a British Governor of the Colony of N.Y. The good governor was dressed as a woman. Of course amongst us students this of course caused laughter and stares. The teachers refused all questions, that is until I was a Senior in H.S. When one of my teachers discussed the subject, and if I remember correctly quite coherently.

The date of the portrait had to be around 1705.

I am doing this on my IPod so don't know how to copy the link, but just google transvestite mayor of N.Y and you can view the portrait.

RAMI

No Laser treatment...

*sigh* There was no FDA approved laser treatment when I had my electrolysis either Andrea, I spent 300+ hours (6 hour sittings every Saturday usually) under the needle having it removed hair by hair over a 3 year period. That was more painful than my SRS!!

You said it!

I still recall to this day the middle region above the upper lip *cringe*

Kim

Thanks

Thank you Andrea for posting the picture.

Rami

RAMI

Interestingly...

Reading the Wikipedia article on The Chevalier d'Éon, it appears she's one of the first documented cases of a legal gender change:

D'Éon claimed to be physically not a man, but a woman, and demanded recognition by the government as such. King Louis XVI and his court complied, but demanded that d'Éon dress appropriately and wear women's clothing. D'Éon agreed, especially when the king granted her funds for a new wardrobe.

I'm still tickled by the final clause in that quote - I wonder how much persuading it took to get the king to cough up... :)

Oh, and bearing in mind both that quote and this:

...whose last 33 years were spent as a woman. Upon death, a council of physicians discovered that d'Éon's body was anatomically male.

Surely transgendered would be a more apt description than transvestite?


As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!

Interestingly...

That was my thought as well mittfh. When I read the article and saw that D'Eon lived as a woman for the rest of her life.

I seem to recall ...

... that Havelock Ellis used the term Eonism in his book on human sexuality (I think, because it's about 45 years since I read it and transgender issues are only a small part) to describe what we might know as Transvestism. At that time transexualism wouldn't even be considered as existing.

Robi