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Submitted by Blossom on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 9:38am
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I found this while browsing the news sites this morning and thought it would be of interest to some readers.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/earliest-painting-o...

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Transvestism MUST be millenia old

Submitted by Hope Eternal Reigns on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 11:01am.

If transvestism hadn't been fairly common in Old Testement times there would have been no reason for its ban to be included in Judaic Law.

Hope

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AND since it is at LEAST that old...

Submitted by Hope Eternal Reigns on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 11:05am.

I would be more than shocked and amazed if there were not MANY more, and older, pictures than this one around.

Hope

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Well no and yes

Submitted by kimmie on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 8:27pm.

As in no, Judaic law that covers crossdressing in Deuterotomy was due to priests of the people, who very inconveniently was already living in the Jews new 'promised land', practiced Goddess worship.

So it would not be good to allow ones own people to change religion. Also, how better to paint the opposition for being evil. All religious law in Deuterotomy has a political and social control aspect and has little to do with God. Consequently, that is why people in the extreme right love to selectively invoke those very tenants where it suits them though a) It has little to no relevancy to modern culture and b) they conveniently do not mention those parts that contradict their own shortcomings.

And, theoretically, for Christians, Jesus was suppose to have forged a new covenant 'which teaches that the Old Testament Laws have been fulfilled and abrogated or cancelled' ( quoted from wiki. )

And, finally, yes, but we may not even know they were really 'men' in the first place if they were young enough to thoroughly pass, or if they are intersexed or even if they have AIS, which would make them genetically male.

Kim

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Earl Clarendon, Edward Hyde Transvestite N.Y. Mayor.

Submitted by rami on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 1:36pm.

As a student in the N.Y.C. Public Schools, we visited the Museum of the City of New York and the New York Historical Society. Among the paintings was one of a British Governor of the Colony of N.Y. The good governor was dressed as a woman. Of course amongst us students this of course caused laughter and stares. The teachers refused all questions, that is until I was a Senior in H.S. When one of my teachers discussed the subject, and if I remember correctly quite coherently.

The date of the portrait had to be around 1705.

I am doing this on my IPod so don't know how to copy the link, but just google transvestite mayor of N.Y and you can view the portrait.

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No laser treatment was available...

Submitted by Andrea Lena DiMaggio on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 1:56pm.

...in 1707...

Lord_Cornbury.jpg
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No Laser treatment...

Submitted by Blossom on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 3:44pm.

*sigh* There was no FDA approved laser treatment when I had my electrolysis either Andrea, I spent 300+ hours (6 hour sittings every Saturday usually) under the needle having it removed hair by hair over a 3 year period. That was more painful than my SRS!!

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You said it!

Submitted by kimmie on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 8:30pm.

I still recall to this day the middle region above the upper lip *cringe*

Kim

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Thanks

Submitted by rami on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 8:40pm.

Thank you Andrea for posting the picture.

Rami

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Interestingly...

Submitted by mittfh on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 2:58pm.

Reading the Wikipedia article on The Chevalier d'Éon, it appears she's one of the first documented cases of a legal gender change:

D'Éon claimed to be physically not a man, but a woman, and demanded recognition by the government as such. King Louis XVI and his court complied, but demanded that d'Éon dress appropriately and wear women's clothing. D'Éon agreed, especially when the king granted her funds for a new wardrobe.

I'm still tickled by the final clause in that quote - I wonder how much persuading it took to get the king to cough up... :)

Oh, and bearing in mind both that quote and this:

...whose last 33 years were spent as a woman. Upon death, a council of physicians discovered that d'Éon's body was anatomically male.

Surely transgendered would be a more apt description than transvestite?

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Interestingly...

Submitted by Blossom on Sat, 2012/04/21 - 3:41pm.

That was my thought as well mittfh. When I read the article and saw that D'Eon lived as a woman for the rest of her life.

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I seem to recall ...

Submitted by Robyn Hoode on Sun, 2012/04/22 - 7:44am.

... that Havelock Ellis used the term Eonism in his book on human sexuality (I think, because it's about 45 years since I read it and transgender issues are only a small part) to describe what we might know as Transvestism. At that time transexualism wouldn't even be considered as existing.

Robi

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